A blog inspired by the comments
What still fascinates me about this blog (and whole experience really) is that people from all over the world follow me. I'm never sure if people want me to call them out by name but two of my longest running supporters are from Europe. With the time difference it means that I often wake up to some very thoughtful, supportive and even insightful comments. I always feel bad that I'm never able to respond like they deserve; mornings in my house are always a little chaotic. Bubs is usually out for a run (although he's been a lot of help lately since he can't run until December), I have a daughter who can't get to school fast enough and a son who somehow manages to come down with a new illness every morning so he can stay home. That menagerie needs to go over to my mom's house so she can get all the elementary age kids to school then I have to stop by and pick up my niece since her school is on the way to my job. It's actually a lot of fun but it means by the time I've stopped to take a breath, I usually have forgotten to respond to two very, very nice people.
This morning I woke up to a comment asking me to talk more about some philosophies that may have guided me through growing up in a relatively strict and conservative environment. I've also had another long time poster say that some of the more interesting things I write are about what it was like growing up in the state that everyone loves to hate. Maybe I can do a little of both tonight.
So I think to do this maybe you have to understand a little bit about my parents. I love them both dearly but up until I was in my mid-20s, I knew almost nothing about my dad. I always knew he was a very hard worker, I always knew he wanted the best for us, I now know the he sacrificed a lot of dreams he had because my mom got pregnant with my older sister and he felt he had to do the right thing. Now that isn't to say they aren't happy or don't have a loving relationship. They very much do, but its a little hard to see from the outside. My dad was very strict and in his own way very conservative. He was also a devout Christian who took the teachings of the church very seriously.
My mom on the other hand is a type of woman that are surprisingly common in Texas--a true free spirt who believes in her role in the family. I'm not sure if this will make sense but my parents were always on the same page when it came to raising the 3 girls, but my mom was also a real pragmatist and would do things without my dad's knowledge so we would be safe in the real world. I don't think she ever lied to him, rather I don't think he ever asked and put her in a position to lie. For example, I've talked about my mom getting me on the pill or taking me to talk to our pastor about my bi-sexual attractions. Had my dad ever asked, I believe 100% that my mom would have told him the truth--but as far as I know he never asked.
This is a great time to talk about the true enigma that is my parents. We always knew that they more or less grew up together, graduated high school 3 years apart but from the same school. We thought they were no more than family friends that reconnected in their mid 20s and had a family and to us that seemed like the entirety of their lives. I think it was 2 years ago we were sitting at Thanksgiving dinner and out of the blue my dad said something like "yeah you used to be able to hitchhike across the country and be 100% safe, like your mom and I did." The look that my two sisters, my brother and myself gave each other could have cut glass. My younger sister asked them why they would need to hitchhike if they both were college graduates when they reconnected and both had jobs. Well it turns out when my dad was 17 and my mom was 15, they had dated. That in itself a massive shock that we didn't know. The even bigger shock was that they had decided that after school let out for the summer that they were going to hitchhike from central Texas, up the Pacific Coast to Vancouver Canada. My parents had never mentioned it, my aunts and uncles had never mentioned it and neither set of grandparents had ever mentioned it. But at Thanksgiving my dad just dropped that bombshell like he was asking to pass the turkey. When we asked up why they neve told us, they both basically said "you guys never asked." For me, the former 11 year old kid who got a wooden spoon to butt when I was caught sneaking out my window to go meet a boy IN THE TOWN, maybe that would have been a good chance to learn that my parents had been teenage runaways?
So I'm off on a tangent and the commenter more specifically asked how I grew up in such a strict environment, yet still be so comfortable doing things like wearing a bikini in public and working at Hooters. As with everything, there's no simple answer. For one, my dad would have killed me had he been the one to see me standing out on median screaming "car wash" in a string bikini top. I think that's probably one of the reasons my mom called my cousin to tell me to knock it off. So it wasn't like I didn't know I was pushing the rules with things like that. I think the roots of me being comfortable in my own skin com from gymnastics. I was in gymnastics leos exerting myself for an audience from the time I was about 4. I've gotten my period in the middle of routine and had blood run down my leg. I've gotten a full on wedgie in the middle of a meet and had to make an on the spot decision to pull my leo out of my butt crack and take the deduction or continue more or less bare ass. Wearing a bikini to advertise my boyfriends car wash and getting nekkid in the middle of a dark park because my boyfriend was just so charming didn't seem like that big of a deal I guess. I also think that I'm a pretty sexual person, again I never want to be titillating when I talk about this kind of stuff so please don't think that's what I'm doing. I had my first kiss when I was in 4th grade and I knew at that moment that physical touch was for me. By the time I'd met Bubs at 13, I would bet that I'd kissed and made out with 20 or 30 other boys. I was hooked and I loved making more than anything. I actually don't know how I made it to 17 when my virtue intact but I know that once we did it for the first time, I was utterly insatiable. Though I've calmed down a bit as I've gotten older, I can confidently just say that Bubs had a very exciting time in his late teens and early 20s. I honestly think that its one of the reasons he was ok with me hooking up with other girls--the poor guy needed a break every once in a while.
Now, it comes to working at Hooters. My parents absolutely knew about it and I think my mom was secretly envious and I know my dad didn't like it. But at the same time, I was an adult and fully self sufficient so while my dad would always want to make sure I was safe, he never said anything to forbid it either. I guess it also probably helps that I was six hours away from home and wasn't coming home wearing the orange hot pants (though that would never happen anyways, we always got into the uniform at work).
But it's also worth noting that about a year before I started slinging chicken wings and upping my take home tips because of my boobs, we had the family event that I think forever softened my parents and made them both realize that they needed to be a lot more more honest and forgiving with each other and life doesn't always go to plan, even for the family that never missed a day at church. For those of you who've paid really close attention to my ramblings, you'll remember that Bubs and I have been married for 11 years as of September. You may also remember that one of the main things that inspired me to elope was my sisters wedding that summer--also 11 years ago. You may also remember me saying that my oldest niece is 13 years old. For a good Christian family from Central Texas, that math ain't mathing.
My oldest sister got pregnant while she was in college and the guy's parents despised her--and that's putting it mildly. There's a lot to unpack here (and thankfully I won't fully do it now) but it's such a Texas thing. It's old ranch money vs a small town Ag family. It's North Texas and the Dallas area thinking everyone else needs to look up to them and praise them--which thankfully my sister was never willing to do. It's the hypocrisy of place that screams family is incredibly important but putting huge pressure on a son/grandson to abandon his own child and the child's mom. Because what was truly important was they thought my sister was a gold digger--and they weren't going to tolerate that. It's a very long story about how my sister and brother in law got back together, but they are happy and my sister is quite literally the strongest and most intelligent woman I have ever met.
But what that meant for me was that when I was living in sin with my boyfriend, getting myself arrested, hooking up with other girls and serving beer with my boobs and ass out, my parents had far bigger things to worry about. I still talked to my mom pretty much every day but the calls would be interrupted by my infant niece who my mom was babysitting while my sister was trying the best she could to make a life for herself with no help from the baby's dad. I could have probably started stripping and my parents would have been annoyed but wouldn't have had the energy to deal with it. When all of this started, my younger sister and little brother were 17 and 11 and they had a couple of years of very little supervision and they both went off the rails pretty hard--which meant my parents had their hand even more full to notice what was going on with me six hours away. It is interesting that the third time I was arrested was a direct result of my younger sister being able to disappear from the house for days at a time and my parents no really having the energy to note her absence (that arrest is one I'm still trying to figure out how to talk about because it was really scary and I'm lucky that I wasn't hurt or that I didn't really hurt someone else).
Dang this is going on a really long time and Bubs is chewing on his own T-shirt because I guess the Dodgers aren't messing up as bad as they normally do. And apparently there was a perfect throw to the home plate to get a Yankee out--Bubs scream actually scared me and the dogs. So I'm not going to wrap this up as efficiently or as full circle as I would like but I should see what all the excitement is about with Bubs favorite boys in tight pants. But I hope this isn't just stream of consciousness rambling and I answered the question!
Thank you for this. One thing that stood out was the line "By the time I'd met Bubs at 13, I would bet that I'd kissed and made out with 20 or 30 other boys" when I think you have separately told us that Bubs was the only guy (as opposed to girls) you ever fancied ...
ReplyDeleteInteresting, yeah Bubs is the only guy I've ever "been with" if that makes sense and for sure the only guy I've ever loved. For sure those were boys roughly my age (like 10-13) and the furthest it ever went was "frenching" and if they were really brave, heavy petting above the clothes. But I also think I talked about how the year that Bubs and I were broken up, I went to prom with poor nervous Teddy Wilson and then actually had a whole other relationship that summer with the guy from University of Texas (I think now it would be called a situationship) but he turned out to be a raving creep.
DeleteIt's such a bummer that all those reddit posts aren't visible anymore. I wonder if I link them here if you all will be able to see them? That may be a good way of actually keeping them alive.
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DeleteI went to a boys-only school so clearly I missed out!
Linking your old Reddit posts doesn't work - we just see "Page not found"
It's interesting when kids come to the realization that their parents are humans. They had a life before kids, They love, and hurt. They have dreams and aspirations and disappointments. They also love each other and have sex. Maybe even kinky sex. Grandparents do too...take my word for it.
DeleteHey makeout queen, maybe we don't have to share everything? 20-30 boys? As in it was so many that your margin of error on the total number is 33%? Sheesh, I woke up to read a happy blog by my wife and instead was smacked in the face with the reality that my life has a been a total lie.
DeleteFor that you owe me, big time. I'm thinking a double meat from Black's on your way back into town this afternoon. That MIGHT soothe the pain I'm feeling this morning that comes from finding out the mother of my children was the town punch before she met me. 20-30? Really?
Guaranteed way to make my children embarrassed (or run away) - allude to the process by which they (or their parents) came into the world !!!
DeleteAndrew, my boys went to an all boys school too. The school had close relationship with 2 all girl schools and they did things together (Cheerleaders, plays chorus etc). We hosted a boy from an all boys boarding school in Sydney Australia. He was a great kid. His family had a 5000 acre sheep ranch 400 miles inland from Sydney. He had no exposure to girls. All he wanted when he got here was to get his picture taken with the schools cheerleaders. Well, he was tall, handsome and had that accent the girls went nuts over him. He was in heaven. I think he managed to do a lot more than get his picture taken.
DeleteTo Bubs: Oh grow up you baby. I'll get Black's but I'm eating mine and half of yours. Deal with it and maybe cool the rhetoric since you now know that I have options.
DeleteWgclem: no, no, no, no, please don't put those images in my head!!!! That literally never happened and my parents probably conceived us four kids through prayer alone! I will go to grave having convinced myself that they never touched each other. Ewwwww.
The girls' school next to my school was a convent. We had no relationship with them, and while no doubt some of our boys managed to chat up some of their girls through the fence, I was far too innocent. I didn't really get to talk to girls until university!
DeleteMy mother-in-law is losing her inhibitions - we recently went with her to the hotel where my wife was conceived. Telling this to my children ....
DeleteDani, the last time that happened a star appeared in the east and 3 wise men showed up
DeleteHave to defend Dani on the kissing. She told us before of her early teen kissing parties while being boycrazy. But the figure was somewhat smaller last time. Hmmm
DeleteWell thank you very much for this Texas story. And as you have probably realised. I am not one of those who dislikes Texas. Unfortunately for your husband New Mexico is in Sweden mostly associated with Meth. Even though I was very proud when the kids called me the Walter White of my school. I think this was one of your better and most iluminating posts.
ReplyDeleteHey Bubs. What position did you play? Our families claim to baseball fame are: 1.We played touch football one Thanksgiving with R.A. Dickey, my older son got struck out by David Price in high school, and my youngest son caught Sonny Gray one season of fall ball
ReplyDeleteVery cool! Yes I love the game so much and love meeting guys like that. We’ve had a lot of people have successful college and minor league guys come out of our area that I still know and a small handful of bigger names. Ironically the biggest names I almost met was Clayton Kershaw and that was solely because of Dani. We were at a Wendy’s in Studio City close to our LA office and she just struck up a conversation with another woman. It turns out two Texas yappers can pick each other out of a crowd and the lady turned out to be his wife. I also met Tom Glavine, John Smoltz and Greg Maddux at a fan event once which aside from my kids being born, may be one of the coolest things that’s ever happened to me.
DeleteThe position I loved was catcher, but a really dominant younger kid kind of pushed me out the position so I’d usually play first unless it was a double header and then I’d get to catch. I also played a lot of right field after I hurt my knee because my coach was worried about collisions but I hated it and by that time it was pretty obvious that I was going to be done. After the injury I could just never turn and get my hips into my swing. It sucked but it’s all turned out ok.
Sorry hate typing this on my phone!
DeleteI was a catcher too. I loved it. I started my boys back there when they were about your sons age because it made them pay attention. My older son moved to 3rd base and my younger continued to catch and play 3rd. I remember him having to catch those double headers on those 96 degree days with 98% humidity. It was especially bad when he was 13 -14. 13 is the age here where they move to 90 ft bases and 60'-6' pitching. Most of those 13 year old pitchers could only throw it 59 feet. They could really make a catcher look bad.
DeleteWhen my oldest boy was 10 (God that was 28 years ago) they won a big tournament so we took the team to Chicago to see the Cubs and Braves. We stayed at the Palmer House Hotel and when we got there after the Saturday afternoon game it turned out the Braves were staying there. Those 10 year old boys chased those ballplayers all over the hotel. They would watch the elevator and wait for them to get off. What a great memory. That was 1996, the best baseball summer of my life. I went to Wrigley, Fenway and Old Tiger Stadium in Detroit that summer.
I'm going to give you 1 piece of unsolicited old fart advice. Back off on your running. I don't know if you run an grass, pavement or a track but your knees, hips and ankles can't take that pounding forever. You already have a bad knee. I am having total right knee replacement in 2 weeks. Arthritis in the knee is no fun, trust me. I know you are only 32 and 10 feet tall and bullet proof, but it will catch up to you. It's better that use some of that time entertaining Dani ;)
Neither you nor Dani ever mentioned if you resolved the issue of the unnecessary gear of your son. What happened?
I wish our son would take to the game but he really likes being a goofball with his friends and baseball really is secondary. It's totally ok if its not for him, at least we've tried it for a couple of years if he decides he doesn't want to play anymore after this fall season and the move.
DeleteI've always been an LA fan but the mid 90s Atlanta teams were incredible. I love small ball and old fashioned National League smart play backed up by an amazing starting rotation. It always makes me a little sad that fantastic play was overshadowed by juiced dudes who could hit hard. That has it's place but to me, it gets boring. I love pitcher's duels and low scoring games where a manager has to make a really hard decision whether to pinch hit the pitcher to hopefully get some offense going or does he make the choice to let him hit so because he's still throwing strikes.
Lol and as far as the whole debacle with the gear? You guys have read my little bride's words for a few months now. Who do you think won that one? She's pretty goddamn crafty when it comes to getting her way.
Not venturing a guess as to who won the battle of the gear, although I would probably have done what Dani did, and I'd probably have been wrong to do it, especially sans discussion. Except for the goggles. Protect the eyes. Even with the littlest ones and softest pitches eye injuries happen, and you don't want that ever. We can fix broken bones, bruises fade and abrasions heal, but we are far less skilled at fixing eye injuries (and brain injuries).
DeleteOh, and I'm right there with wgclem about protecting your knees. I have orthopedic surgeons breathing down my neck about replacing both of mine (severe arthritis, avoid it if you can), and I am fighting it until I absolutely cannot walk, but ibuprofen every day is no fun, nor is using a cane half the time (a sparkly stylish blinged-out cane, but still). Run for a while yet, no need to stop before you have to, but consider some high quality knee braces to take some of the pressure off when you do run. There. More gear to buy.
Bubs, your son is only 6 right? Give him time. Play catch with him, subtly teach him proper throwing mechanics. Teach him the right way to hold the bat. If nothing else it is Dad and Son time which is so extremely important. 1 last war story at least for tonight. When my youngest son was 12 my older son was 15. My older son and I coached his team. The 3 of us had the best time ever. The team was great maybe 500 but all the kids had a blast.
DeleteThat last sentence was supposed to read, "wasn't great"
DeleteWho the hell am i kidding? You should definately be able to attract a following with your stories. There is a lot of mythology to them. Texas flavour. If you have a chance to do it on anything resembling your terms you should. Go Danni! Indulge! But if your husband doesn't want to he doesn't. A happy marriage demands respect for each others differences.
ReplyDeleteNow I feel I'm starting to get a more complete picture of you. Starting to wonder more about Bubs. How much military is he, what deployments has he been to? Does he know what a Sopwith Camel is? etc. I understand that these are questions, except maybe for the Sopwith Camel, that are off limits.
Wow! There sure is a lot to unpack here starting with your first sentence. Europe full of beauty and history? Yes, of course. Rational? After 2 world wars and a little mess in Yugoslavia (I've never seen it spelled with a J) in less than a century? Hardly rational in my mind.
ReplyDeleteI grew up in the Midwest US (Michigan) and have lived in the south (Nashville Tennessee) now for 50 years. I have often wondered how the world would be different if the south had won the American Civil War. Most people today wrongly think the US Civil War was fought over slavery. That is a lazy study of history. At he heart of the issue was the question of where the ultimate political power would reside. With a dominant Federal Government an idea championed by John Adams or with the states as championed by Thomas Jefferson? Ultimately the issue of slavery brought this question to a head that ended so destructively. Now we have the overwhelming (overwhelming IMO) Federal Gov't , with the states having less control. But this issue still dominates our politics i.e. the question about abortion. However, if the South had won North America would be balkanized like Europe with probably 10 or so different countries on the continent and all the attendant regional and secular tensions that would go along with it. North American probably would be like Europe with many regional conflicts.
Christianity in the US is very segmented. Views range from progressive/liberal to right wing/fundamentalist. Some read the Bible as historical fact, inerrant, with every jot an tittel directly dictated by God; to others who see the book as written by people with a story to tell. Mainstream Protestantism is losing membership by droves. Organized, ritualistic worship is quickly losing it's appeal. I don't want to get into this to deeply other than to say American Christianity is complex.
Lastly, is the idea that Europeans think America is wide open about sex. I have always thought that Americans are repressed and Europeans are very open minded. Interesting.
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DeleteDifficult questions to unpack of course and a bloggpost can't give it justice. I think I have proven my good opinions of america enough to permit myself a qoute of Oscar Wilde. "American is the only culture that has gone from barbarism to decadence without passing by civilisation" or something like that. I mention this because no matter how much I appreciate the US, and I am one of those europeans who almost always defend America from the far to common and lazy european anti-american arrogance, I do feel that Europe is more rational and relaxed than the US in many respects. (Like the old man/culture that we are). I doubt the brittish or any other European major power would have handled the war on terror as clumsily as the US did.
ReplyDeleteBut maybe wisdom is a feeble comfort for the lack of virility and power. The shamefule cowardice I felt during the Yugoslavian war (spelled Jugoslavien in swedish) is once again echoed in Ukraine. We talk a lot about standing with Ukraine. At the end of the day everyone seems to expect that you guys should coss the pond again and fix it becuase we don't know how anymore. People seem to think that we can fight Russia with social media posts. My ancestors actually almost drove them out of Ukraine about three hundred years ago.
Europeans might be open minded, in many ways we are. Above all we are more quiet (Danni, you, seems to be very american ;-)) But the modern sexual culture might have echoed in Europe and Swedish blondes might be famous among older generations but it's origin is Amercian, just like it's backlash #Metoo.
Hey you had a great comment that I wanted to respond to but I'm having a hard time finding it! I think what I'm going to do from now on is post both to the blog and my new reddit account (fingers crossed it isn't instantly banned). That way the conversation can be so much more fluid. I love to see you all talking with each other!
DeleteBut I think you were talking about how the American South is so hard to define. I would totally agree. One thing is that Texas is even a little unique and only tangentially a southern state. Mostly because we are so huge. From El Paso to Waksom is a 12 hour drive. It also means that our culture is so much more diverse than all the other southern states because we were so heavily influenced by Spanish and Mexican cultures. Shoot I wish I could find your comment because I really wanted to answer some of the things you said!
I do remember you said you hoped my brother in law turned out to be a nice guy and got over himself. He did. Basically what happened is his grandma was almost like a soap opera villain and she really thought everyone was trying to screw the family out of their money. Once she passed away, he realized he had really screwed up and came crawling back to my sister and niece on his hands and knees. He's a really good guy and I'm glad that he now treats my sister so well. I know she still struggles with her in-laws, especially since her husband works for the family company but I think they've come to a sort of détente over the years. What drives me so crazy is they've never admitted they were wrong about her intentions. She's given them 3 amazing grandkids, she never asks for anything from them and instead of insisting her husband dip into family funds so they could live in a literal mansion, she insists they live our little 70s era neighborhood because she wants to be close to family. I don't know how she does it, I wouldn't or couldn't be so gracious. Sorry I could gush about my sisters all day long. I know I got myself off track and didn't answer any of your questions! Sorry!
Interesting what you say about Texas. In my hypothesis about if the south had won the civil war I think Texas would be one of those independent countries, along with California. I read a book earlier this year that had as it premise that North America has 12 distinct "tribes" Texas is part of what he described as "El Norte". It extends from Monterray Mexico to southern Colorado. Including New Mexico, Arizona and parts of SoCal. That is opposed to the "Deep South", North Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, the southern half of North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Tennessee is part of "Appalachia". The norther half of North Carolina and Virginia east of the Blue Ridge is "Tidewater". All of these were part of the old Confederacy. but each area distinctly different. Settled by different people from different countries and different cultures. An interesting aside I read that if you speed up a typical southern accent it sounds British. If you speed up a Louisiana accent it sounds French
DeleteAn adventurous life! Or at least a misspent youth, which beats the hell out of sitting around on the sidelines not doing anything risque at all. You will have LOTS of stories to tell your kids, and you'll be the notorious (and notoriously cool) Grandmother Danielle some day to your grandkids even if your own kids say "eew" now and again, because, you know, chaste parents and all (I am still convinced that my siblings and I were immaculate conceptions, and I refuse to listen to reason, science, or anything else). Life is to be enjoyed. Glad you're having fun.
ReplyDeleteI still owe you an email and I can't wait to hear about your trip! I really hope you got to see the Aurora in all it's glory!
DeleteNo Aurora this trip, at least not from the ground, although we did see it from the plane above the clouds, which was pretty neat. Fairbanks had an early-season snowstorm, the kind of heavy wet snow that would cause schoolbusses to be a bit late in Minnesota, but basically shut all of Fairbanks down for two whole days. Schools, museums, McDonald's (yes, really). So we went dogsledding instead of Aurora-chasing and had a lot of fun anyway. If you ever have the chance to go dogsledding do it - it's a blast.
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ReplyDeleteWell since the blogg seems to bully my long and semipretentious rambling about Texas, Sex, Europe Religion and the J/Yugoslavian war, I am gonna experiment and write something completely different. What are these Texas/New Mexico differences you talk about? Here in Europe Texas is almost as well known as America itself. New Mexico has Walter White and nothing else. Maybe there is a story in that.
ReplyDeleteInteresting in that I think many Europeans see the US as monolithic, and nothing could be further from the truth. Some European counties have social polices that I refer to as "socialism lite" Not like the Old Soviet Union, or Cuba or Venezuela, but with larger social safety nets, higher taxes, socialized medicine, more vacation time etc. than is the norm in the US. Liberals in the US argue that if this works and the people approve of it in Europe why won't it work here? The answer in part is that until recently most of the European countries have a fairly homogeneous populations. With shared language, values, ethics, work ethic etc. That is not true in the US. The US has always been a melting pot. My wife (retired now) was a Speech/Language Pathologist working with pre-school kids in the Public schools here. She told me there are around 120 different languages spoken by families in the public schools. This Nashville TN not NYC.
DeleteAnother thing that plays into the differences is geography and topography. The US is a big place. In Tennessee alone we have 3 basic geographic regions. Mountains in the east, rolling hills in the middle, and flat river land in the west. Each attracted a different kind of settler. For example, East Tennessee is historically staunchly Republican. That part of the state did not secede from the Union in the Civil War, as opposed to Middle and West Tennessee which were more Plantation like prior to the Civil War. Until recently (1990's) were both overwhelmingly Democrat, mainly because Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Looking at Texas and California they are bigger.
Well I agree to a large part. A colleague of mine recently pointed out that the american revolution in it's inception was individualistic and agency based (The pursuit of happiness and all that) while the french revolution from it's inception was much more about what the goverment was gonna do for you. Thereby an important cultural/political difference from the start. I think he has a point.
DeleteI do think you have a point about the homogenous population in Europe but it's a point that is also often exaggerated by some while being totally ignored by others. Europe's generous social welfare systems are not sustainable over time. The statistics are brutal. Our productivity is declining while your's have managed fairly intact inspite of globalisation.
Yes, sweden took in enormous amounts of refugees in short time (2% of population in one year) and we are still reeling from the consequenses of that BUT our society was already in decline before that. Of course the exploding crime rate and enormous value differences between secular swedish values and islamic values are important and problematic. But as a teacher I also se imigrants displaying a toughness I miss in the ethnic swedes.
On the other hand I really like that we do not work as much as you. Most swedes have 4-5 weeks payed holliday (I have 7) But some aspects of our welfare system have really been corrosive to our work ethics and general mental strength.
Europe and Socialism
Swedes love to be arrogant towards America when it comes to politics. I have always since I was a kid heard that America only have two right wing parties battling it out, while Europe have actual political diversity with a living socialism even though it has been socialism lite. People are not as arrogant anymore. Our political landscape is quickly turning into yours with conflicts between conservative and liberal social agendas and the socialism lite is becoming VERY lite. Over the last years when I have asked students if they know who the founder of socialism was the kids who raise there arms say Carl Marx with a distinct american accent, as if he was some kind of american celebrity and not a very bearded german economist.
Still wonder what Dani would say about Texas vs New Mexico though. She has a ... different way of decribing it I think.
This is really weird. I don't wanna sound like a nutjob but the only explanation to why my long comment (even when I tried to divide it) dissapeared must be that some kind of algoritm found it sensitive or something. The moment I write about something completely different it gets accepted. Well I'm happy it sparked some discussion at least. You all seem to be very experienced and wise people and it would be nice talking to all of you.
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